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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

Glad that fancy piece of paper left me with some deductive skills and a little feeling for error messages. :) Two out of four likely candidates do, in fact, have a parallel port. I can load whatever...

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QuoteOSUFlatlandI know they bought Atmel a while back, but have no idea how compatible the interfaces are. This one likely works. AFAIK there is only one such device for the whole AVR range....

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It occurs to me that the ISP may be doubling for the display header. Pretty sure one of the pin clusters it's plugged into is a 2x3. I'll check it out when I get home tonight or tomorrow and report...

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QuoteOSUFlatlandIt occurs to me that the ISP may be doubling for the display header. Yes, the programming header is actually an SPI header with Chip Select connected to Reset. Displays connecting to...

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Can do. Hopefully I can get to it tomorrow after work, but no promises. 12 hour shifts eat your work days. :)

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So...I have a bunch of Pro Micro's, which the how-to seems to say won't work because they don't have an FTDI chip - on chip USB - or a couple Mini Pro, which use an off board FTDI USB-TTL programmer.I...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

Try them. Once there's a bootloader on the chip three's no need to ever look back.

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Update:the Pro Micro seems to have taken the Arduino ISP code, but I need a cable now, and would like something a bit more elegant than bits of CAT5 stuck to a few strips of 1x header strip. I'll try...

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Attempting to use a Pro Micro to burn the bootloader to the Sanguinololu gives me the following: Arduino: 1.6.4 (Windows 7), Board: "Sanguino, ATmega1284 or ATmega1284P (16 MHz)" C:\Program Files...

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QuoteOSUFlatlandUsing Programmer : stk500v1 Given that your programmer should support binaries > 64 kB, this might not work. Swapping stk500v1 for stk500v2 (-c parameter) should give better...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

Okay, solved a driver issue with the Arduino, which I probably should have done before even trying, but I was impatient... Same error. Do I have to try burning the boot loader from a command line or...

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I also tried uploading with "Arduino as ISP" as the programmer, and received the following: Arduino: 1.6.4 (Windows 7), Board: "Sanguino, ATmega1284 or ATmega1284P (16 MHz)" C:\Program Files...

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Also, I tried AVRISP Mk II, but it gave the error "could not find usb" or somesuch - I assume because that programmer does not operate over a simple COM port.

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Using the command line is much easier in such cases. Still some people prefer to edit the boards.txt file somewhere inside the Arduino folder to adjust parameters there. In case you want to access the...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

I you're trying to use an FTDI connection, you are basically trying to program the AVR thought the serial interface. I'm not 100% sure of this, but I think in this case, you need a bootloader on your...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

I'm using a Pro Micro clone, based on a 16u4 with USB on chip. I've been trying to read up on this, but depending on what you meant, most sources aren't very forthcoming on the "how" as much as the...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

QuoteOSUFlatlandWindows is far more user friendly in day to day use. This is something I read often, and which is hard to believe to me. Recently I set up XP just for testing Configtool and I found a...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

If you don't code much, package dependencies are usually included in win installers. I believe your complaint is with poor ports. :-) Using avrdude in command line I get the following while trying to...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

Those messages mean to me that you're not even connecting to the processor. Either your baud rate is wrong or your port is wrong. Or your programmer is wrong.

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Hmm. Good news and bad news. I tried reinstalling the ArduinoISP firmware to my Pro Micro and now it shows up as "Unknown Device" and I can't even pull a device ID from it. The good news being...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

Other dubious news - I've apparently succeeded in writing something to the Sanguinololu - the menu no longer shows on the display. This will be educational, if not fun...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

Good news! My cousin helped me out and we got the firmware installed! Now I just need to figure out... everything else. :-)

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

That's indeed good news!

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

For anyone else in my situation, the baud rate was 57600 and programmer should be arduino, not stk500 for the sanguinololu. It may have had the bootloader after all, but we'll never know now. :-)

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

QuoteOSUFlatlandFor anyone else in my situation, the baud rate was 57600 and programmer should be arduino, not stk500 for the sanguinololu. This depends not on the controller type, but on the...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

Fair enough. At least now the next person who goes looking will have this as a reference. I guess this begs the question of how hard it would be to edit the bootloader to change the baud rate?...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

Uhm, there are no "global constants" ... Baud rate is hardcoded in the bootloader. The ones coming with Gen7 Arduino IDE Support are hardcoded to 115200 baud. It's also a number relative to the CPU...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

Sorry, not really a programmer, clearly. I meant a defined value like a #define. I realize it's hard coded in the bootloader, but is the bootloader itself closed source? If not, could it be possible...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

If the bootloader is closed source, where would you put this #define? Write it with a pencil on the back of the chip? :-) Luckily it's Open Source: [github.com] There are other Open Source bootloaders...

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Re: Teacup on Sanginololu under Win 7

Yes, yes, I know what open source means. :-) If I was playing with the bootloader much, I might actually write the baud rate on the chip with a pencil. ;-) Or if I had multiple chips/controller...

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